I have been watching the horse dancing because the way they train these horses and how they respond is unbelievable. But the comments some people leave very rude comments. Things like "that is abusive" and some people believe they burn the ground in order for the horse to lift it's feet faster. Well then why are the guys standing on the ground? I am just tired of people crtitisizing other people's customs and beliefs. If you really think about it, maybe they laugh at us in how we train our horses. Maybe they think we are the ones abusing our horses. You cant force a horse to do something you want, if you try you will get hurt or killed so maybe they arent forcing their horses, maybe the horses like it, that is what they are bred to do, that is what their ancestors did thousands of years before them. As you can see, this has been bothering me for some time now and I couldnt take it anymore. I am not trying to change people's opinions, I am just letting out anger and its helping
Youtube comments on horses makes me mad, how about you? I agree with you, lots of people think that no matter what training you use you are abusing the horse and that is just not true. The bottom line is that you can't make everyone happy so it's pointless to try because no matter what you do it's never enough! So the best thing for you to do is ignore these peoples ignorance to the sport and laugh to yourself because you know how great riding is and they don't!
Youtube comments on horses makes me mad, how about you? The movements that these 'dancing horses' are exhibiting are all about collection. It has to do with collecting the horse, preventing forward movement and exagerating their natural movement. Watch freestyle Dressage sometime and you will see these same movements. Passage, piaffe, etc. The problem you get with some of the foreign countries and even here and the UK are people forcing the horse into doing it before they are ready. I worked with Andalusians in the UK and by the time they were 5, they were exhibiting many of the upper level movements. The horses were stressed and not relaxed whereas in upper level dressage they have to be relaxed. The worst cruelty I have seen is with spurs and the whip. Holding the horse back (collecting) then using the whip and spurs harshly in an attempt to get the movement they want. Some horses like Andalusians ARE bred to have these over exagerated movements. Its up to the trainer to treat the horses kindly and not utilize training aids harshly.
Youtube comments on horses makes me mad, how about you? I have been to see the Lipizzaners in Vienna (another dancing horse breed) and they get excellent care. I can tell you that they are better cared for than the majority of the horses in this world. They are also trained to an oustanding degree, which makes watching them amazing. They aren't abusing the animals. I don't know which horses you are talking about, but fire can scare horses into spasms and shock, but I haven't seen anything so I can't judge.
You make sense. Why would people set fire to the ground THEY are standing on? If people are so concerned and make the comments, why don't they do something about it?
Youtube comments on horses makes me mad, how about you? Yeah... basically you have to listen to people who know what they're talking about and ignore people who don't. Animal abuse shouldn't be ignored, but it also shouldn't be assumed that every domesticated animal is abused. Maybe it isn't "natural" for horses to live on good turnout, with clean stalls to be in during inclement weather, and blankets to keep them warm, and people to clean their sheaths and float their teeth and deworm them, and get structured exercise. But if it's bad for horses to be kept that way, it must also be bad for us to live in houses, with clean clothes to wear, and proper medical care, and education, and so on.
In any case- the video you refer to is absolutely incredible to watch. The horse clearly loves what she's doing; it's as obvious as if she were grinning from ear to ear. No horse with that kind of animation is suffering abuse in any aspect of its life. I've met a few abused horses in my time and the difference between them and healthy horses under saddle is very distinct. You can see fear on them from a mile away. By contrast, Matine (the horse in the video) is plainly not working through fear.
Youtube comments on horses makes me mad, how about you? i agree. i also dont like it when people are over-critical of other people's riding skills. riders aren't perfect and some of those people make these awful comments when the person is actually doing quite well. makes me mad
Youtube comments on horses makes me mad, how about you? i totally agree
but that isnt really a horse thing
its more about what other people think of people
make protest about something then
do something
dodnt just sit there
Youtube comments on horses makes me mad, how about you? i agree with you its bull! some that make those comments dont know nothing about training horses and they believe that training them to do this is cruel when really its not! does this hurt the horses to train them to do a curtain thing? i dont think so! all they want is to talk trash when really they dont known what the heck they are talking about
Youtube comments on horses makes me mad, how about you? i agree if people don't like the videos then why do the watch them they just want to spoil everything for everyone .
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Youtube comments on horses makes me mad, how about you? I do...most of them are offensive and have nothing to do with the video they just watched...and the ones that are about the video...9/10' of them are just mean!!!
They have no idea the hours and hours of patient bonding and training that goes into training horses to do anything...let alone dance. I think it's amazing to watch....brings tears to MY eyes. (yeah, I'm a goof LOL)
Youtube comments on horses makes me mad, how about you? If by 'horse dancing' you mean dressage... there is a lot of controversey in that area right now. There is a war going on between the people who believe in the "classical" methods and those who are practicing a newer kind of "modern" dressage.
The debate is heated not because people simply disagree; people are getting upset when they see practices that they feel is abusive to the horse.
The technique most often in question is "rollkur", which involves curling the horse's head in to his chest.
Nowhere in the classical training books does it say it is okay to do this. Many trainers (and experts such as veterinarians) firmly believe this is abusive to the horse because it inhibits his breathing, makes him unable to swallow (hence more foam at the mouth), is painful, and is forcing the horse into submission.
However, Anky van Grunsven does it. (Multiple world-champion and olympic medalist.) So this presents a problem. Many people say "well if she does it and wins, how bad can it be?"
It is an ongoing debate. People get very upset about it because they feel that inexperienced riders who think they are 'trainers' are trying to imitate this technique and unwittingly abusing their animals.
This is a rather different debate than in some other disciplines - for example, Western reining riders might think showjumping is cruel, or vice versa. But the rollkur debate is unique because the Federation Equestre International (FEI) is trying to investigate and get medical opinions on whether this technique IS physically painful for the horse and if they should do anything to curb it, such as disqualifying riders who exhibit this method in the warm-up.
You can actually watch videos of Anky training and warming up on YouTube to get a better idea of what the rollkur is.
I very much dislike it on YouTube when people make nasty comments for no reason, or offer unsolicited advice to people who are obviously skilled riders and have been brave enough to post a video of themselves riding.
However, I must also say that I have seen some extremely disturbing video posted on YouTube and was horrified at the casual comments left. For instance there is a video of a rider beating the crip out of an obviously distressed horse and all the comments are like, "you are a brave rider" or "you showed that horse who's boss!" I have left some strong comments on videos when I witnessed what I believed to be abuse beyond a shadow of a doubt. I don't wish to be nasty, and I doubt my comment will do anything to sway the person who made the video, but when I see something awful, I feel I have to do my part to stand up and voice my opinion, because the horse cannot speak for himself.
Youtube comments on horses makes me mad, how about you? It is because people are uneducated!! Ignorant!! %26amp; Have NO idea of what they are talking about!!!
Youtube comments on horses makes me mad, how about you? I agree...I do TWH, and people are just giving us terrible comments like horse abuse and such...just because we use action devices and big shoes doesn't mean we are abusing them...